The one-second delay is unacceptable: Andrey Kobets — about domestic developments and advanced technologies in operating rooms

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Andrey Kobets
Andrey Kobets

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Андрей Кобец, генеральный директор ООО «Медицинские системы визуализации»
Andrei Kobets, General Director of Medical Visual Systems Ltd.

— Andrey Sergeevich, at the recent forum “Young Medicine” much attention was paid to innovative projects and developments in the field of healthcare. Tell us, what interesting developments do you have now to help doctors?

— We are conducting a number of developments, including using artificial intelligence. The main directions are called smart operating rooms and intensive care units. They are so called for their modern “stuffing” and services.

— At the most significant and large-scale exhibition of the year “Healthcare-2023” you presented your achievements in digital surgery. Tell us, please, what is a “smart” operating room?

— What we offer as a development is a set of services and offers that help surgeons perform their work more efficiently. We are talking about a decision-making system and tips for doctors, identifying errors. In fact, it is a set of devices, sensors, monitors and cameras, systems that record the data of medical equipment. All information is recorded in real time for subsequent analysis by doctors, and it is then available for colleagues. These data are also in demand for providing assistance through telemedicine and remote access. Thus, doctors can ask for help during surgery from their colleagues from other medical institutions or turn to artificial intelligence.

Image Quality

— How to adjust modern technologies for doctors? Should systems, monitors and cameras be customized for a specific specialist, or should they still be universal?

— To answer this question, you need to break it into blocks. To begin with, I would like to note that surgeons as doctors have been studying for a very long time. Russian universities have their own traditions, schools, and healing rituals. All this affects how a particular specialist works, the choice of his tools, methods, and so on. In addition, the specialization of the surgeon himself plays an important role — in orthopedics, traumatology, in the treatment of childhood diseases, etc. I emphasize that the entire infrastructure of the operating room should be configured specifically for the doctor. He is here as a conductor — everything necessary is located under his hand, everything is accessible and convenient.

At the same time, it should be understood that the operating room is a sterile area, access to which is strictly limited. Even for other doctors. Establishing contact between the clean zone and the external circuit, even in the mode of a regular videoconference, is a difficult task, the solution of which depends on the information and infrastructure capacities of the hospital. And here comes another task — obtaining and transmitting online high-quality images, which are so necessary for doctors. Just imagine: the second delay of the video by an ordinary person is practically not noticeable, and for the operating doctor it is unacceptable. Every fraction of a second is important, incorrect configuration of systems can turn into a fatal error, so it is important not only high image quality, but also stable data transmission at high speeds. That is why the “heart” and “brain” of innovative operating rooms must work clearly and harmoniously. These include: monitors that display video and audio in real time, endoscopic racks, ultrasound machines, angiographs, CT, MRI, other devices and video cameras. All together, it should work like the most reliable watch: clear, simple, understandable. Moreover, each of the listed pieces of equipment may have several pieces. Once we worked with an operating room where 18 video cameras were placed.

— Are we talking about external cameras?

— Not only about them. There are also cameras that are putted inside the human body when performing minimally invasive operations. They are built into the so-called endoscopic racks. Thanks to them, the doctor can look at the organs and their condition from different angles. Ultrasound machines, angiographs, X-rays, and tomographs also help doctors. The latter, by the way, produce more than 12 images during operations. The number of sources varies depending on the surgical intervention. Among them there are sources of augmented reality.

— What is it about in the latter case?

is a device similar to special glasses. After putting them on, the doctor receives an additional image on the patient’s body. The picture shows the location of the internal organs. The innovation is more often used in traumatology and neurosurgery. The image is “assembled” in advance — based on CT and MRI data, which will then form the basis of a specific model for the doctor. Doctors receive additional navigation through the patient’s body. This is important for promoting tools during complex interventions. For example, in neurosurgery, every millimeter is important, and the success of the entire operation sometimes depends on the entry point and the trajectory of the instrument. To avoid mistakes, a kind of “road map” of the patient is compiled. Thanks to it, the doctor gets a complete understanding of how to use the tools in the best way, without unnecessary incisions.

— Is the surgeon the only one who sees all the information?

— The necessary information is received not only by the surgeon, who can be called the commander-in-chief of the entire operation, but also by the entire team. It can consist of 3 to 12 people. Most of the doctors are involved in organ transplantation. And each of them monitors certain indications. Thus, the anesthesiologist monitors the patient’s vital signs so that during the intervention he remains in anesthesia, was in the right phase. He has his own monitors. Nurses monitor the position of the instruments so that the doctor has everything at hand, in a clear sequence. Access to the body, closing of incisions, suturing — these data are also in the field of view of doctors. And the monitors located in the operating room are available to the entire team. There are three, four, and eight screens, depending on the type of operations performed. It is important that they do not interfere with doctors and are located in the most convenient way. Special consoles are also used, the so-called long arms to control them, as well as microscopes that display information on the screen. There are monitors designed only for the chief physician of the hospital. During his rounds, he can view the progress of the operation, its specific phases, rewind the video to the desired stage, while not distracting the operating surgeon. The chief physician has access to different angles and sources of information — the same microscopes, endoscopic racks, angiographs, etc. Data from each installation is accumulated on the screens.

— You were talking about image quality. How is it configured?

— It must be genuinely high. And here contrast depth settings and color rendering play an important role. It is important to understand that surgeons have to work a lot. He can stand on his feet for eight hours. As a human being, of course, he gets tired. Comfortable conditions are created for doctors to support them. We are talking about the so-called practice of different colors and their correction. The lighting of the operating room plays its role, as well as the internal color rendering settings. For example, when wearing 3D glasses, the surgeon never chooses the blue scale. The white color begins to shine especially brightly in it. This reflection puts a very strong strain on the surgeon’s eyes. It is removed by choosing the right color scheme.

Make way for innovation

— Andrey Sergeevich, what advantages do Russian doctors get thanks to these developments?

— The road is always open to technology and innovation. Their gradual implementation is taking place in all cities: both in Moscow and in the regions. Our developments are represented in more than 20 regions of Russia. In the capital, smart operating rooms are being equipped at the Veresaev Hospital. Other flagship hospitals are being built in the city, where smart operating rooms will appear. At the same time, we work closely with medical institutions, in particular, with the famous Sechenov Univesity. Our developments are also under the control of the Moscow Department of Information Technology. We have been working closely with the department for two years, implementing the best practices in Moscow. I emphasize: the Russian capital is ahead of the whole planet in introducing innovations! Not only in the country, but in general — in the world!

— Are we talking about a specific initiative?

— Artificial intelligence (AI) is actively used in Moscow, which can detect seven chest diseases at once on a CT scan. These are lung cancer, pneumonia, osteoporosis of the spine, aortic aneurysm, pulmonary hypertension, hydrothorax and coronary heart disease. And if the world is only testing, then Moscow is already actively implementing modern technologies, and they give amazing results! And targeted programs and life cycle contracts allow you to track the use of innovations.

— Andrey Sergeevich, what is the potential of young scientists now? Can we say that the future of Russian healthcare is in safe hands, and medicine will develop and improve rapidly, so that in the future the life expectancy of the population will increase, and the quality of life will become much better?

— It is very important to note about scientists. Modern surgeons are not just doctors, but scientists who study for a long time and are constantly engaged in their development. By choosing this profession, young specialists not only perceive traditional schools of healing, but also add advanced technologies to their accumulated rich experience. Can we say that the future of medicine is in the hands of the young? Yes, of course! All of them are aimed at improving the quality of medical care for the population and contributing to an increase in life expectancy. These are the doctors themselves, the government, business, and developers. Profile forums, for example, the forum “Young Medicine”, are proof of this. Medicine has stopped living behind separate closed doors. A huge number of programs are being implemented to develop all areas of healthcare. Innovations in medicine are primarily aimed at the well-being of patients. And they need to be scaled up as actively as possible so that in every corner of our country there are opportunities to help people competently and professionally. So that doctors at the same time have the opportunity to perform operations faster, freeing up time for their further development and training. Thus, by reducing the intervention time by 10-15 percent, we free up to three days per month for specialists. He can spend it on staff training.

An assistant for creators.

— To what extent can artificial intelligence be an assistant for a doctor today?

— To begin with, let’s turn to the term “support and decision—making system”. All systems that exist for the doctor should navigate, prompt him to take action. The next step is the introduction of services trained with the help of artificial intelligence. They are needed where the doctor has a lot of information about the patient’s condition, and it is difficult to draw objective conclusions about his diagnosis. In Moscow, artificial intelligence is already helping to identify hints of serious diseases, primarily cancer. Let’s imagine a CT scan. Thanks to it, the doctor receives 256 sections of one organ or its area to diagnose the disease. In fact, these are the same pictures that a doctor or a diagnostician should look at. Artificial intelligence helps the doctor to pay attention to specific points. This way, the specialist will not miss something important when making a diagnosis. The doctor will review the information again and compare it with his conclusions or assumptions.

— Wouldn’t a doctor shift decision-making to artificial intelligence in such a situation?

— There has been talk about this for a long time, and not only in medicine. Chemists, geneticists, autopilots, and scientists in various industries are discussing whether there is a danger of substitution. We are convinced that artificial intelligence is a tool that is designed to help. Any means and services — from a mobile device to applications on it — have no value without a person as a user, operator, creator, and how he uses these capabilities. You can draw a parallel with the past: how did Michelangelo create his masterpieces? The answer is simple: using the same tools that were available to other artists. This is the case with artificial intelligence: it is a tool whose application depends on a person. True Russian medical schools send young specialists, giving them new tools that allow them to help save people.

— What examples can be given here?

— Previously, some operations required a lot of effort, and the stay of patients in the hospital took a large number of days. For example, removal of the gallbladder (cholecystectomy). The abdominal surgery used to take six hours, was highly traumatic, and the patient spent 7 to 10 days in the hospital. Now the operation takes an hour and a half, and the patient is discharged from the hospital in two days. Minimally invasive interventions are performed through neat punctures, without large incisions and long healing periods. As a result, we see that the operations are put on stream: instead of four, 40 can be performed. More people are getting help in a timely manner. In order for doctors to navigate faster, artificial intelligence comes into play. He will prompt, organize, and give commands if necessary. Operations will be carried out even better and faster. This is happening here and now.

Inner market

— What solutions are you implementing in the context of sanctions and import substitution? How difficult is it to implement them?

— Import substitution for business was a difficult task at first. Access to technology, innovations, and details turned out to be limited. But after a while, we can say that it was not us who were shut out of sanctions, but the world will not receive our developments. There are not enough of our ideas in other countries. They may have more advanced equipment, but they don’t have our solutions. My observation is that it was necessary to focus ideas, innovations, and technology within the country earlier. Specialists were attracted by the foreign market. Now no one thinks of going abroad, all innovations remain in the country. And they will definitely bear fruit. The same forum “Young Medicine” testifies that domestic developments are in demand, and Russian companies honorably accept all challenges. Each of them is at its peak. This means that there is a prospect, and the whole Russian world is uniting around stimulating production. No one is distracted by imports, there is concentration within the market. We will definitely catch up and overtake in innovation.

— What is your team working on now? Can we expect new discoveries in the near future?

— We are working on a cloud service in which we collect data from surgical operations. There is a lot of information, it is protected by the law on personal data. What will it give us? The more information there is about operations, their stages, and the use of effective methods, the more opportunities doctors, students, and interns undergoing training and practice will have. We will create a platform that will bring together doctors, developers, businesses and manufacturers. Thanks to such cooperation, more inventions will appear in the country. The best ideas will be available to direct users — future and present doctors who will be able to study and use the highest quality methods and practices.